AMD 4850e @ 120�C!!! - Page 2

Pete1976 · #11 (**permalink**) 02-19-2009, 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sumo

Sorry Pete for my late respons

Hi Chris,

Sorry for my late response too! I was not able to check the details of the problem.

But yesterday I reinstalled a boxed cooler (from a box of the AMD 4850e with 45W). Those are the results:

- without any cooler in the BIOS the CPU temp goes up quickly to ~65�C, then I switched off but I measured at the surface of the heat spreader the temperature and it was hot (seems that the BIOS shows the right temp)

- after mounting the cooler I started Windows and check the idle temp: ~32�C

- then I tried to stress the CPU with prim95 and stopped the fan at the boxed cooler; temp goes slowly up to ~80�C

- the same test with running the (noisy) fan at the AMD boxed cooler during the prim95 torture never goes over 50�C (compare with my Zipang: more than 100�C)

At summary it seems that the Zipang is not working properly :-(

So you mean we have to change the Zipang? I it would be possible I want to change my Zipang not against a new Zipang but against a new Shuriken because the Zipang looks a little bit too large inside the case (to install the terrible boxed was more easy than with the Zipang).

Please let me know how to handle this case.

Thanks again for your big help!

Best Regards

Pete

sumo · #12 (**permalink**) 02-19-2009, 01:52 PM

Hi Pete,

That is really strange...

But sorry, its not possible to change the cooler in your way but i can offer you to send your Zipang Cooler to us and we will check the cooler here in our lab.

What do you think about it?

Chris

Pete1976 · #13 (**permalink**) 02-19-2009, 07:14 PM

Hi Chris,

yes I want to send the Zipang to you for testing. But what is if you find a failure? I think then you will exchange the cooler, right? And this exchange would not be possible to another model? Ok, better to have a working Zipang than a defect one.

So tell me how to send it and what's about to pay of the transport.

Thanks!

Pete

sumo · #14 (**permalink**) 02-20-2009, 09:27 AM

Hi Pete,

If we find a failure, you get a new cooler and i will test this one before i send it to you.

So send the cooler to:

Scythe EU GmbH
Willinghusener Weg 5c
22113 Oststeinbek
Germany

Info: We dont axcept unpaid packages.

We pay for the shipment back to you.(with the new cooler)

If anything is fine to you, tell me when you send the cooler to us, than we know that it arrives hier in some day so we can make it a little bit faster.

Chris

Pete1976 · #15 (**permalink**) 02-20-2009, 12:49 PM

Hi Chris,

I think I send it today or tomorrow to you, so that it arrives at Monday (2009-02-23).

Thanks!

Pete

Pete1976 · #16 (**permalink**) 02-26-2009, 09:11 AM

Hi Chris,

thank you for your big help. The problem is solved, now everything is fine!

Thanks again.

Best regards

Pete

debian_user · #17 (**permalink**) 03-03-2009, 09:59 AM

Hi. I was trawling through the web and stumbled across this post. I would also like to report that I have had temperature issues with my AMD X2 4850e paired with Abit A-N78HD motherboard. I'm of the belief now that it is an AMD problem. In trying to solve the temperature issue, I replaced the CPU cooler with 3 different types, but to no avail. I currently have a mid-range Zalman 8700 cpu cooler attached. The CPU idles at 45C (room 31C) with fan at max RPM of 2600. When both CPU cores are at 100% and Zalman CPU fan is max RPM, CPU temp reaches 72C. This seems extraordinary high for a 45W TDP processor paired with a quality heatsink. Previoulsy, I built another computer for a friend's office with an AMD X2 BE2350 rated processor at 35W TDP. It idled just 4 degrees higher than room temp. I'm sure that the CPU temperature die is not calibrated correctly. It seems about 20C too high.

sumo · #18 (**permalink**) 03-09-2009, 09:50 AM

Hello debian_user,

It would not be the first time that something happens with the temp sensor inside the Cores of AMD and also Intel CPUs. So thank you for you advice.

Kind Regards Chris
Scythe EU GmbH

connyislief · #19 (**permalink**) 10-28-2009, 10:08 PM

Hi, I am the proud owner of a AMD 4850e also combined with a GA-MA78GM-S2H from Gigabyte.

I have the same issue. If the CPU is stressed up to +70% the CPU-temp rises to 80 or something. Then the Shuriken heats up and the fan slows down. Even stops and runs between 0 and 450 RPM. Way too slow. It starts mowning also. Then the CPU-temp goes up to above 100 degree's and the system shuts down. What can be the problem here? It sounds like a bearing is not 100% any more and when it get's too hot, it has too much friction, and heats up even more... Then the motor can't power the fan anymore... something like that. Any idea's ? In my opinion, it is broke...

StaticPressure · #20 (**permalink**) 01-30-2010, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by connyislief

Hi, I am the proud owner of a AMD 4850e also combined with a GA-MA78GM-S2H from Gigabyte.

I have the same issue. If the CPU is stressed up to +70% the CPU-temp rises to 80 or something. Then the Shuriken heats up and the fan slows down. Even stops and runs between 0 and 450 RPM. Way too slow. It starts mowning also. Then the CPU-temp goes up to above 100 degree's and the system shuts down. What can be the problem here? It sounds like a bearing is not 100% any more and when it get's too hot, it has too much friction, and heats up even more... Then the motor can't power the fan anymore... something like that. Any idea's ? In my opinion, it is broke...

The fan starts moaning?

I think you may have a defective fan.

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#12 (permalink) 02-19-2009, 01:52 PM
sumo Product Manager Assistant Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamburg Posts: 553	Hi Pete, That is really strange... But sorry, its not possible to change the cooler in your way but i can offer you to send your Zipang Cooler to us and we will check the cooler here in our lab. What do you think about it? Chris __________________ Scythe EU GmbH Support Hamburg Register and enjoy the official Scythe Forum Compatibility List for Scythe CPU Coolers We do not accept unpaid packages! Wir akzeptieren keine unfreien Zusendungen!

#13 (permalink) 02-19-2009, 07:14 PM
Pete1976 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 9	Hi Chris, yes I want to send the Zipang to you for testing. But what is if you find a failure? I think then you will exchange the cooler, right? And this exchange would not be possible to another model? Ok, better to have a working Zipang than a defect one. So tell me how to send it and what's about to pay of the transport. Thanks! Pete

#14 (permalink) 02-20-2009, 09:27 AM
sumo Product Manager Assistant Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamburg Posts: 553	Hi Pete, If we find a failure, you get a new cooler and i will test this one before i send it to you. So send the cooler to: Scythe EU GmbH Willinghusener Weg 5c 22113 Oststeinbek Germany Info: We dont axcept unpaid packages. We pay for the shipment back to you.(with the new cooler) If anything is fine to you, tell me when you send the cooler to us, than we know that it arrives hier in some day so we can make it a little bit faster. Chris __________________ Scythe EU GmbH Support Hamburg Register and enjoy the official Scythe Forum Compatibility List for Scythe CPU Coolers We do not accept unpaid packages! Wir akzeptieren keine unfreien Zusendungen!

#15 (permalink) 02-20-2009, 12:49 PM
Pete1976 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 9	Hi Chris, I think I send it today or tomorrow to you, so that it arrives at Monday (2009-02-23). Thanks! Pete

#16 (permalink) 02-26-2009, 09:11 AM
Pete1976 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 9	Hi Chris, thank you for your big help. The problem is solved, now everything is fine! Thanks again. Best regards Pete

#17 (permalink) 03-03-2009, 09:59 AM
debian_user Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 1	Hi. I was trawling through the web and stumbled across this post. I would also like to report that I have had temperature issues with my AMD X2 4850e paired with Abit A-N78HD motherboard. I'm of the belief now that it is an AMD problem. In trying to solve the temperature issue, I replaced the CPU cooler with 3 different types, but to no avail. I currently have a mid-range Zalman 8700 cpu cooler attached. The CPU idles at 45C (room 31C) with fan at max RPM of 2600. When both CPU cores are at 100% and Zalman CPU fan is max RPM, CPU temp reaches 72C. This seems extraordinary high for a 45W TDP processor paired with a quality heatsink. Previoulsy, I built another computer for a friend's office with an AMD X2 BE2350 rated processor at 35W TDP. It idled just 4 degrees higher than room temp. I'm sure that the CPU temperature die is not calibrated correctly. It seems about 20C too high.

#18 (permalink) 03-09-2009, 09:50 AM
sumo Product Manager Assistant Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Hamburg Posts: 553	Hello debian_user, It would not be the first time that something happens with the temp sensor inside the Cores of AMD and also Intel CPUs. So thank you for you advice. Kind Regards Chris Scythe EU GmbH __________________ Scythe EU GmbH Support Hamburg Register and enjoy the official Scythe Forum Compatibility List for Scythe CPU Coolers We do not accept unpaid packages! Wir akzeptieren keine unfreien Zusendungen!

#19 (permalink) 10-28-2009, 10:08 PM
connyislief Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	Hi, I am the proud owner of a AMD 4850e also combined with a GA-MA78GM-S2H from Gigabyte. I have the same issue. If the CPU is stressed up to +70% the CPU-temp rises to 80 or something. Then the Shuriken heats up and the fan slows down. Even stops and runs between 0 and 450 RPM. Way too slow. It starts mowning also. Then the CPU-temp goes up to above 100 degree's and the system shuts down. What can be the problem here? It sounds like a bearing is not 100% any more and when it get's too hot, it has too much friction, and heats up even more... Then the motor can't power the fan anymore... something like that. Any idea's ? In my opinion, it is broke...