Ninja plus rev.b blocking memory slots on p5k deluxe/premium?

[Jedison]

Yo everyone, just though I'd ask as I'm currently building a PC. I have the p5k premium board which is almost identical to the p5k deluxe and I know it's compatible as I've checked this site. But I've hear some people say the Ninja with the fan on may block some of the memory slots on the board only allowing two slots. I have the crucial memory with the heatsinks on it and I'm only going to be using ram with heatsinks so any info on this matter would be great. Thanks!

[Oli]

Originally Posted by Jedison

But I've hear some people say the Ninja with the fan on may block some of the memory slots on the board only allowing two slots. I have the crucial memory with the heatsinks on it and I'm only going to be using ram with heatsinks so any info on this matter would be great. Thanks!

I am a P5K Dlx user. The problem you describe is directly connected to the size (= height) of the RAM heatsink. I am using RAMs w/o heatsink and the Ninja Plus fan is sitting directly on the memory modules (so the fan cannot be pushed down any more). The banks are fully usable! But: If your RAM heatsink is quite high you will also have to lift the fan a bit up in his installation brackets (that is possibly there is some tolerance).

That's no problem as long as we are talking about some millimeters. But if your heatsink is more than 0,5cm or 1cm higher than a memory module without heatsink the range of the Ninja Plus fan installation brackets will not allow you to move the fan so much upwards to free the memory modules. If that is the case you will have a collision and you need to deice whether you find an alternative installation method for the fan itself or you really leave the first banks empty.


Bye Oliver

[Jedison]

Well that sucks, are there any Scythe makes that will give a bit more clearance possibly? I still want to stick with Scythe due to the silence they make and this will be a music production pc, but if the Ninja blocks any ram slots I'll not be having that.

[Jedison]

Also then will this Crucial Ballistix ram Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 2GB 2X1GB DDR2-800 CL4-4-4-12 240PIN Dual Channel Memory Kit - DirectCanada

Provide enough clearance so I can fit it under a Ninja with fan on a p5k?

[Oli]

As far as I can see this should fit without problems. The module is not higher than one without heatspreader. Even if it is 2-3mm higher this is within the tolerance of the fan brackets.


Bye Oliver

[himself]

what obreitfelder said is right .. but u have also the possibility to change the fan position. i've made a mod for a friend, to a Ninja Plus rev.B so that a "rear" 120cm fan blow cold air from the back of the case and another 120cm fan mounted on top of the cooler helps exhausting the hot air to the top of the case. the other sides are closed (transparent plexic glass). i'm confident that you will work out a solution for your case. good luck!

[Shinigami]

Hi,

Basically I would stick what obreitfelder said. The Ninja is always not touching memory because the last/first fin (depending how you see it) is higher than the memory - but that goes only for OEM memory or those with normal heatsinks. The Crucial RAM you mentioned should be fine.

Also you can attach the fan on whichever side you want or you can generate a good airflow, then there is no need to put a fan directly onto the Ninja PLUS.(Please watch the temps in beginning, as there might be some problem with your aifrlow causeing instability of CPU due to overheating).

Cheers,
Andy

[Oli]

Originally Posted by Shinigami

Also you can attach the fan on whichever side you want or you can generate a good airflow, then there is no need to put a fan directly onto the Ninja PLUS.

In my neverending quest for good temps I am also thinking about this possibility of removing the fan. At the moment I am using a Kama Bay situated exactly on the level of the Ninja. So there is a constant airflow of cool air from the front. But only with 800 rpm. On the back there is another fan blowing out the hot air with 1000 rpm. I'll test if the airflow is sufficient if I remove the PLUS fan.

Personally I would not install the fan in the direction where it would blow the warm air from the cpu cooler directly into the power supply. I believe this part is getting hot enough even without the Ninja's air.


Bye Oliver

[Shinigami]

Hi Oliver,

Sounds like you are improving the airflow inside the case. I would also not recommend to involve the Power Supply(PSU) into the airflow. It is not really good to suck in the hot air from the PSU inside the case and also not recommended to blow the hot air into the PSU because it makes things only worse. That's my point of view..

Andy

[Oli]

You're absolutely correct Andy, I dropped this idea completely (blowing hot air in PSU although it is not really hot).

I read a review about a very impressive case from Lian Li in which the PSU is installed rotated (top to bottom) so that it is no longer part of the airflow inside the case and the PSU is always getting fresh, cool air (auf deutsch: auch kein "Luftklau" zwischen CPU, PSU & Gehäuselüfter mehr!).

In the next months I am planning to change to this case but at the moment I am so happy with my temps (E6700@1,27V@3200 34/35 idle, 56-58 load) that I don't want to "touch a running system".

A picture of Lian Li's variation for PSU installation method/direction:


Review:
http://www.silenthardware.de/reviews...ung/index.html


Bye Oliver