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Old 03-01-2008, 09:26 AM
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Hi,

I'm planning on purchasing the Scythe Ninja Plus Rev. B but what is the best option to attach it on a Gigabyte P35C-DS3R motherboard? I will be using an E8400 and probably attach a 500 rpm 120 mm fan onto it.

I've read when using scythe's retention kit you need to use the spacer? So i presume the TR bolt thru kit is the best option?

Is Rev. B worse than the original ninja? I guess the ninja is still the best option for me (silence) ?

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Old 03-01-2008, 02:32 PM
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Using the copper spacer is NOT a must. It depends: a) if you can achieve enough pressure without the spacer AND b) the cooler clears all mainboard components around the CPU socket without the spacer it is not necessary.

Looking at pics your board I'd guess it could fit without the spacer. The capacitors could be low enough. You could wait for someone with this combination to answer or use TR kit which is a good workaround 'cause you can use the socket 775 clip which is designed "better" than the socket 478 clip which you need for Scythe Ret Kit and which can collide with the capacitors.

And no Ninja Rev B is an improved version of Ninja A. It performs very good and is very suitable if you wish a silent setup.


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Old 03-01-2008, 04:18 PM
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Ok, thanks for your reply!

So overall you would recommend the TR bolt-thru kit?
(Which one do you use ?)

Have you tried your E6700 fanless?
 
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Old 03-01-2008, 04:56 PM
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Fanless is impossible! Even with undervolting. I use TR Bolt Thru.


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Fanless is impossible! Even with undervolting.
Have you tried it yourself?



An A64 3200+ based system, totally fanless. CPU (65W TDP) is overclocked and overvolted to the max (2.6Ghz, 1.75v), temps are fine. What am I doing wrong?
 
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Well, surely it CAN be done. But I've been asked whether I can run my E6700 passive. And no I cannot. It is impossible in my setup. I tested it and temps go up too much exceeding 80 degrees even undervolted.

I wasn't talking about an enthusiast's system. It may run fanless/passive in a special optimized case/setup but in mine it just doesn't work even with a quite decent airflow in the case.


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Hey,

fanless is not easy to accomplish if you know nothing about it. You have to choose the components right, set up the whole system in a proper way. If you have a decent airflow, it will work for most people, but totally fanless is a completely different thing and you need to plan right.

E6700 is not the best choice for fanless. AMD is easier and more accurate with their TDPs. Intel needs to overcome some voltage changes and ideally go for 45nm CPUs, then it is easier.
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