the weight and retention system

[bon]

Hi there!

Curious. Ive seen many threads on how to mount the Mugen (******** for me up until I saw this forum :p) on motherboards...specifically the Gigabyte GA-P35-DQ6 and in my case the GA-P35-DS4.

Quite some people have used a different setup than the one in the package.

Using rings and screws and all to tighten the cooler to the CPU (better).

My biggest concern is, this is a HEAVY cooler...it scores very well all around. But considering the weight, are the "push pins" strong enough to keep it in place (also when moving the case) and does it not damage the motherboard ?

I mean ...almost 1 kilogram on 4 pins ? ouch :p

I'm curious about this since I ordered these parts, including this cooler. (I assume here that the Mugen is identical to a currently newly ordered ********.)

Feeling a bit uncertain on what to chose to mount it ... use the changes people made or stick to your, Scythe's implementation.

(On the other hand, you guys know what the cooler is ..you made it etc etc etc ....so it would not be smart shipping a -good- cooler together with some poor mounting :p)

Eagerly awaiting my parts so I can start building, I greet thee! :)


/bon

[bon]

adding to the above:

Also curious if it will fit in an Antec P182 case. Since they have added space behind the motherboard plate for cable management...(Not sure if the case in all is wider, if not then ofcourse the space is smaller and then I am wondering if I have to cut a hole in my wonderful Antec or not )

[Laistrygon]

Initially I wanted to mount the cooler with the retention kit, too. But now there is some kind of supply shortage, so I'm going to try it out without the kit.
Let's see how well it'll work...

[Shinigami]

Welcome.

@bon:
I would say it is Ok and it will work, as in most cases, yet there are not just few people complaining and sure I understand that people feel a bit uneasy about plastic but we had no problems with it and a lot of users also use it w/o any problems.
If you want to feel more safe it is possible to use the universal retention Kit.

We are working on the improvement right now, we keep you updated but the next 1-2 months we will improve the availability of the kit on the market, the demand is simply bigger than expected.

Laistrygon:
Keep me posted on your results. If it takes too long, there is always a way to solve the problem. The Mugen is available this week, so just a few more days...

Andy

[Lampost22]

Hi there,

yesterday I received all my components I ordered. Just because I forgot to order some liquid metal I didn’t finish to setup my equipment. Part of the components is a Gigabyte P35 DS3 mainboard on which a Scythe ******** (new Mugen) is to be installed. When reading the forums I discovered the retention kit being available and making it easier to install the ********. I ordered it too and do have a question on that topic.

I installed the retention kit which was quite easy. Now I placed the small copper plate on top of the cpu and put the ******** on top of that to see how it will look like. Everything was done without any conductive paste. No clamps were snapped in or anything. It was just a visual fitting. Now I saw that the clamps on the ******** and the Retention Kit are quite far away from another meaning, I would really have to put in some muscle strength to get the ******** fixed. Is that how it is supposed to be. I just don't want to break anything so thats why I am asking rather before than afterwards.

So the setup would be: ?
________
********----------> |________|
copper spacer---> ________ <cunductive paste in between spacer and Infi
cpu-------------> ________ <cunductive paste in between cpu and spacer

I would be glad for an short answer.

Greetings.

[Laistrygon]

Hi,
I installed the Retention Kit myself just yesterday; the first time without the Spacer, the second time with it, the third, fourth and fifth time without it again...

I did it just as you wrote how you'd do it; I believe it's better to follow the instructions written in the manual, which says that you first have to put on the heatsink compound on the heatsink base of your cooler, like this:



After that put the Spacer on it, and then mount the cooler (with the Spacer) on the heatsink-compound-covered CPU.

I did that, but when I dismounted the cooler again, I noticed that the Spacer has been moved during the mounting-process, so the IHS of the CPU only just was covered by the Spacer, so when I installed it again, I didn't use the Spacer..

I had to use some strength, too, but not that much. You should be careful on the one hand, and be sure that the heatsink base is in the centre of the CPU when mounting the cooler. It works even quite "force-less" without the Spacer inbetween.

So good luck, if you haven't already mounted the cooler!

[Shinigami]

Hi guys!

I didn't have the time to publish the recommendation to forget about the heatspreader. Here comes the recommendation just for this case.

Using the spacer is good if you want to gain some distance to the Mobo, e.g. if the cooler contacts the Capacitors around the socket. If possible I would recommend to forget about using the spreader. While using the direct contact the performance is better because you have only once contact area which is using thermal grease!

Note: If you don't use the Universal Retention Kit, please also replace or remove the insulation washers between the the Motherboard and the socket 478 hook unit - the one you need to screw with the backplate.

You should imprive the performance by doing this.

Cheers,
Andy

[Laistrygon]

Oh, good to know; I already wanted to try out whether the temperature woould sink if placing the spacer inbetween. But now I know that it'll rather be the opposite.

[Shinigami]

I don't really want to try because I can see the difference being around 3-5°C. You have to think about the point that you have 2 contact areas instead of 1.

Andy

[Laistrygon]

Yes, two more contact areas against a higher contact pressure; which one wins?